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jesus : (24 May 2012 - 10:26 PM) if nothing happens by tomorow, im gona get all paperwork etc but and give up... no point waiting more
jesus : (24 May 2012 - 10:26 PM) trust me im more angry bout it then you are matt, guy told me last night he wuld get it.. today didnt answear phone
gino_xl : (24 May 2012 - 10:22 PM) charlie how much to hire out engine crane?
Indelible : (24 May 2012 - 10:16 PM) any estimated time for blues slip yet , i know i'm buggin you but surely they have some idea?
jesus : (24 May 2012 - 10:13 PM) big difference between full tube car and front/rear tube..
Indelible : (24 May 2012 - 10:05 PM) why bother may aswell, just make whole car tube like drag car
jesus : (24 May 2012 - 10:01 PM) they have cut the whole front end off.
Indelible : (24 May 2012 - 09:58 PM) i thought both were front , and they had cut whole front end off and made that shit
Indelible : (24 May 2012 - 09:58 PM) ah i get it now,
jesus : (24 May 2012 - 09:57 PM) first pic is front, 2nd is rear
Indelible : (24 May 2012 - 09:55 PM) or is that the rear?end
Indelible : (24 May 2012 - 09:54 PM) doesnt do much ,isnt that firewall forward that dodgy frame?
jesus : (24 May 2012 - 09:52 PM) it doesnt realy need to do much though, not like you need that shit
chaRwie : (24 May 2012 - 09:52 PM) yeh, looks like they didnt measure the tubes before welding
Indelible : (24 May 2012 - 09:47 PM) looks dodgy
jesus : (24 May 2012 - 09:46 PM) had a stack drifting, its a track car... chopped rails and floor out and tubed it
chaRwie : (24 May 2012 - 09:39 PM) wtf they building
Indelible : (24 May 2012 - 09:38 PM) wtf
jesus : (24 May 2012 - 09:37 PM) way to go bro, cut ur rails to make some pos bash bar lol
jesus : (24 May 2012 - 09:37 PM) https://fbcdn-sphoto...685050763_n.jpg
jesus : (24 May 2012 - 09:35 PM) american bash bars https://fbcdn-sphoto...213612672_n.jpg
jesus : (24 May 2012 - 09:35 PM) i duno the bloke
gino_xl : (24 May 2012 - 09:34 PM) ooowww fweind
chaRwie : (24 May 2012 - 09:32 PM) arent they ur friends? lol
jesus : (24 May 2012 - 09:28 PM) 4am lookin for shit wheels lol
jesus : (24 May 2012 - 09:28 PM) i know right llol
chaRwie : (24 May 2012 - 09:28 PM) my rateing will go down forsure!
gino_xl : (24 May 2012 - 09:27 PM) jzxgarage blog: unsubscribed
Wink : (24 May 2012 - 09:26 PM) up til 4am on yahoo searching for one brand of wheel... fucking lol
Wink : (24 May 2012 - 09:25 PM) if he search lehrmesiter or whatever in jap wouldve got it straightaway
Wink : (24 May 2012 - 09:25 PM) guy has nfi how to search for stuff on yahoo
jesus : (24 May 2012 - 09:24 PM) i would if it was my rx7 matt, but yea ive heard that gay buzza
Wink : (24 May 2012 - 09:24 PM) ryan drives my car every GC
jesus : (24 May 2012 - 09:23 PM) http://run-it-hard.c.../mix-and-match/ cant see good lookin wheels
Indelible : (24 May 2012 - 09:23 PM) first thing you do in a rx7 is hit rev limiter to hear the buzzer
Indelible : (24 May 2012 - 09:22 PM) you have his car?
Indelible : (24 May 2012 - 09:22 PM) huh?
jesus : (24 May 2012 - 09:20 PM) wink, ive slowly been steppin up the trash... reved it to 5k this time haha
jesus : (24 May 2012 - 09:20 PM) who care's, like 2 stroke just fuckin rape it...
chaRwie : (24 May 2012 - 09:18 PM) no low down torque lol
chaRwie : (24 May 2012 - 09:17 PM) doesnt rip skid unless u drop clutch tho....
Indelible : (24 May 2012 - 09:17 PM) are expensive *
Indelible : (24 May 2012 - 09:17 PM) yea love rx7's but not expensive to keep goin
jesus : (24 May 2012 - 09:16 PM) btw rx7 nice car.. goes good
jesus : (24 May 2012 - 09:15 PM) wink doesnt have a jzx blog owning a rx7 though lol
chaRwie : (24 May 2012 - 09:14 PM) john kim commenting again?
Indelible : (24 May 2012 - 09:13 PM) lol wink he still has jzx , you own rotary and still hang here
Wink : (24 May 2012 - 09:12 PM) i thjink comments systenm is broken
chaRwie : (24 May 2012 - 09:11 PM) x71 still a jzx
Wink : (24 May 2012 - 09:10 PM) jzx garage blog with no jzx
jesus : (24 May 2012 - 09:05 PM) need more sick 90 parts ryan.
Caine : (24 May 2012 - 09:03 PM) dislike!
dishlex : (24 May 2012 - 09:02 PM) I am looking through carsales and the forsale forum for a new Chaser now. It's a bit sad but.
chaRwie : (24 May 2012 - 09:00 PM) now official....
chaRwie : (24 May 2012 - 09:00 PM) http://jzxgarage.wor.../end-of-an-era/
Wink : (24 May 2012 - 09:00 PM) i havent owned jzx for 1.5 years
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gino_xl : (24 May 2012 - 08:58 PM) sux to be you
gino_xl : (24 May 2012 - 08:57 PM) no more market
gino_xl : (24 May 2012 - 08:57 PM) everyone sold up or crashed their jzx bro
1400r : (24 May 2012 - 08:47 PM) get on it fuckers power fc for 100 in there for a you 100 dudes that pm'd me after I sold mine
chaRwie : (24 May 2012 - 08:46 PM) itll chop cleanly, not caught lol
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eck0 : (24 May 2012 - 08:40 PM) but what happens when your fingers are caught? Keep cranking till your fingers are free? or what? lol
chaRwie : (24 May 2012 - 08:37 PM) lalalala la la la
Wink : (24 May 2012 - 08:35 PM) Posted Image
jesus : (24 May 2012 - 08:35 PM) i forwarded that on
jesus : (24 May 2012 - 08:34 PM) yea got it this arvo man
chaRwie : (24 May 2012 - 08:32 PM) Winks room is neat
Indelible : (24 May 2012 - 08:32 PM) did my phone send you a pic message today ryan coz it says it did but i sent it week or so ago
jesus : (24 May 2012 - 08:31 PM) 3 finger's neat?
Wink : (24 May 2012 - 08:30 PM) my room is neat
Indelible : (24 May 2012 - 08:30 PM) hahahaha
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gino_xl : (24 May 2012 - 08:25 PM) gf loss her teeth when he accidently drop his fist on her face?
chaRwie : (24 May 2012 - 08:18 PM) ouchhh
eck0 : (24 May 2012 - 08:16 PM) friend lost the tips of his 3 fingers when his gf accidently cranked the car when he was checking belt tension
eck0 : (24 May 2012 - 08:15 PM) haha
chaRwie : (24 May 2012 - 08:12 PM) cant wait to get fingers chopped
chaRwie : (24 May 2012 - 08:12 PM) ya simo excieted about his fan

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Posted 13 December 2008 - 09:49 AM

Found this a while ago and thought it might be of some use to those that don't like the black magic/pot luck approach to buying new wheels.

I've also seen a bolt up gauge type of contraption which can be used to attach to your wheel hubs and then measure exactly what kind of offset/backspacing you need. I'll see if I can find it again.

Essentially though, if you take proper measurements of your wheel wells, hubs, etc and then use the info below you should be able to find out exactly how a particular wheel will sit on your car.

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Offset
Offset is measured from the centerline of the barrel of the wheel to the hub mounting surface. If that hub mounting surface were in the exact center of the barrel of the wheel the offset would be 0". If the mounting surface is away from the center of the wheel the offset is measured in millimeters. There are 25.4 millimeters to an inch. So if the mounting surface is 12mm from the centerline of the wheel it has a 12mm offset. That would also mean that it is about inch. If the mounting surface is moved away from the vehicle that is a positive offset.

The picture shows a wheel with the positive offset. A positive offset will cause the wheel to set in or tuck into the vehicle. Originally you found positive offsets on just front wheel vehicles. Due to that some people refer to positive offset wheels as front wheel drive offsets. Currently there are many rear wheel drive cars and trucks with positive offsets. The higher the positive offset the less it sticks out from the vehicle and it will have a higher Backspace.

If the mounting surface is moved in toward the vehicle past the centerline, that is a negative offset. A high negative offset will produce a lower Backspace. Once again the measurement in millimeters is how far away from the centerline the mounting surface is. A -24mm offset means that the mounting surface is located 24mm or 1 inch from the centerline toward the vehicle. The wheel will come out farther from the vehicle and will have that deep dish look.

Width
The width of a wheel is measured inside the beads which are usually inches. If you measure on the outside of the beads an 8 inch wheel will measure 9 inches.

Backspace
Back spacing is measured from the inner edge of the wheel to the hub mounting surface. It is a convenient measurement in that, as long as the back spacing remains the same, the clearance to the suspension also remains the same. If you know the width of the wheel and the offset you can compute the backspacing. For example if you have an 8 inch wheel with a +24mm offset. An 8 inch wheel is actually 9 inches wide so if the offset were 0 the mounting surface would be right on the centerline and the backspacing would be 4.5 inches. With a positive offset the mounting surface moves off center 24mm or 1 inch toward the outer edge of the wheel. This will make the inner edge go more inside which will result in a 5.5 inch backspacing.

Centerbore
This is the diameter of the center of the wheel. The centerbore must be equal to or larger than the hub of the vehicle for the wheel to seat. If the wheels centerbore is the same as the hub on the wheel then that wheel is hub-centric and uses the hub to center the wheels. If the centerbore is larger than the hub then the lugs will center the wheel and that is lug-centric. When using a lug-centric wheel be sure and snug the lugs up slowly and tighten them in an opposite or star pattern.

Bolt pattern
A bolt pattern of 6x5.5 means it has 6 lugs and if there were a circle through the center of all the lugs the diameter of that circle would be 5.5 inches. On vehicles with an even number of lugs you measure from the center of one lug to the center of the opposite lug.
With a five-lug pattern, measure from the center of one stud hole to the center of the farthest stud hole, skipping the adjacent hole. The resulting measurement is slightly smaller than the actual bolt-circle diameter. The conversion table below displays the difference

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Posted 13 December 2008 - 10:07 AM

Also helpful:

Wheel Offset Calculator
Wheel Tire Calculator

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Posted 13 December 2008 - 11:24 AM

Wow, thats quite helpfull :lol: Just calculated from stock to wheels I want on the rear -

Inner clearence - 21mm less
Outter position - EXTEND an extra 81mm

That will be an interesting fit :P

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Posted 14 December 2008 - 12:16 AM

It's not hard to understand how offset works.

The hard part I find is getting the biggest offset wheels you can for your particular car, as it depends on how much it's lowered, guard rolling/flaring, camber and tyres - all these factors are different from one modded car to another.

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Posted 09 May 2009 - 06:19 AM

Like Wink said, it depends on alot of variables. But there is 1 variable that is constant=rear axle. Found a page that might help if your car or rim are not stock.




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