Jump to content


Welcome to JZX World Forums

Welcome to JZX World Forums, like most online communities you must register to view or post in our community, but don't worry this is a simple free process that requires minimal information for you to signup. Be apart of JZX World Forums by signing in or creating an account.
  • Start new topics and reply to others
  • Subscribe to topics and forums to get automatic updates
  • Get your own profile and make new friends
  • Customize your experience here
Guest Message by DevFuse
 

Toggle shoutbox JZX Shoutbox

S0unIQ : (24 May 2012 - 05:22 PM) did you buy the carbs?
S0unIQ : (24 May 2012 - 05:22 PM) you need to take a break so i can catch up
chaRwie : (24 May 2012 - 05:21 PM) true ray
S0unIQ : (24 May 2012 - 05:14 PM) two hands if you got left hand on numbers
chaRwie : (24 May 2012 - 05:12 PM) hand gets cold from to much diablo3
chaRwie : (24 May 2012 - 05:12 PM) best heater
S0unIQ : (24 May 2012 - 05:07 PM) dick in hand
eck0 : (24 May 2012 - 04:50 PM) something to cuddle in your sleep charlie
chaRwie : (24 May 2012 - 04:50 PM) pictur eof winny sleeping always good
eck0 : (24 May 2012 - 04:48 PM) dead battery is always good
chaRwie : (24 May 2012 - 04:41 PM) no battery always looks good
bobo : (24 May 2012 - 04:29 PM) any other sites or links on it
bobo : (24 May 2012 - 04:29 PM) oh wow - engine bay from god almighty
bobo : (24 May 2012 - 04:28 PM) ahaha cheers,
KbaTz : (24 May 2012 - 04:28 PM) Thanks!
discern : (24 May 2012 - 04:27 PM) gw batz
TRD JZX100 : (24 May 2012 - 04:26 PM) New topic Engine Bay from God Almighty posted in Off Topic Chat by GOD TRD JZX100
KbaTz : (24 May 2012 - 04:26 PM) i10.photobucket.com/albums/a130/VIPq45/TRUE Cup/34.jpg
discern : (24 May 2012 - 04:23 PM) FR in amateur league compared to that
bobo : (24 May 2012 - 04:22 PM) awww why picture no work
bobo : (24 May 2012 - 04:22 PM) http://i10.photobuck...130/VIPq45/TRUE Cup/34.jpg
chaRwie : (24 May 2012 - 04:21 PM) fr wont have shit on that
bobo : (24 May 2012 - 04:21 PM) straight baller!!
bobo : (24 May 2012 - 04:21 PM) http://i10.photobuck...130/VIPq45/TRUE Cup/34.jpg
chaRwie : (24 May 2012 - 04:20 PM) park assist, i want watch keyless entry remote control option
chaRwie : (24 May 2012 - 04:19 PM) 3millionyen for best one?
discern : (24 May 2012 - 04:18 PM) how much are they in jp?
chaRwie : (24 May 2012 - 04:17 PM) i sat in one in japan, so nice
chaRwie : (24 May 2012 - 04:17 PM) yeh, will have to wait LONG TIME!
chaRwie : (24 May 2012 - 04:16 PM) true dat, will wait i reakon
bobo : (24 May 2012 - 04:15 PM) new crown is mint, i want but so pricy and dont think you can import them yet?
KbaTz : (24 May 2012 - 04:14 PM) fuark
discern : (24 May 2012 - 04:13 PM) newest crown next level
chaRwie : (24 May 2012 - 04:13 PM) but then u see the newest crown and makes u cry http://www.re-make.o...on/grs200fb.jpg
KbaTz : (24 May 2012 - 04:12 PM) 17k jake. do it
KbaTz : (24 May 2012 - 04:12 PM) NIKE
Jake110 : (24 May 2012 - 04:11 PM) DO IT!
chaRwie : (24 May 2012 - 04:11 PM) its on the list, need test car lol
S0unIQ : (24 May 2012 - 04:10 PM) definitley upgrade though
S0unIQ : (24 May 2012 - 04:09 PM) but they are not yet importable?
chaRwie : (24 May 2012 - 04:07 PM) http://www.auto-acp2.../170crown_l.jpg
chaRwie : (24 May 2012 - 04:06 PM) mmmm http://www.noaf.or.k...A3%D6-zsder.jpg
chaRwie : (24 May 2012 - 04:05 PM) been looking at JZS170 crowns, so appealing to me
JZXTV : (24 May 2012 - 04:05 PM) fkn amazing
KbaTz : (24 May 2012 - 04:03 PM) oo that the new one ay? any good
KbaTz : (24 May 2012 - 04:03 PM) quitter!
JZXTV : (24 May 2012 - 04:03 PM) fuck no... sony xperia S
chaRwie : (24 May 2012 - 04:03 PM) fixing all the little things on the x71 fir rayray, doing a rizz, changing bushes and bearings
KbaTz : (24 May 2012 - 04:01 PM) don't tell me you have jumped on the iphone shit wagon? :P
KbaTz : (24 May 2012 - 04:01 PM) :( sad times duy
S0unIQ : (24 May 2012 - 04:00 PM) never really like 4door v35
iNoob : (24 May 2012 - 04:00 PM) someone at my uni has a white 370gt
Wink : (24 May 2012 - 04:00 PM) http://cdn.mkimg.car.../3055915/p8.jpg
JZXTV : (24 May 2012 - 04:00 PM) sorry batz, i dont have samsung no more, so cant video call you when you're in your den again
JZXTV : (24 May 2012 - 03:59 PM) me no zyzz, me just skinny fella now
Wink : (24 May 2012 - 03:59 PM) kb
KbaTz : (24 May 2012 - 03:58 PM) lies
JZXTV : (24 May 2012 - 03:55 PM) nah no zyzz
KbaTz : (24 May 2012 - 03:52 PM) zyzz
KbaTz : (24 May 2012 - 03:52 PM) duy zyz bro
JZXTV : (24 May 2012 - 03:50 PM) batz malaka bro
KbaTz : (24 May 2012 - 03:47 PM) When I do.. you'll know lol don't you worry
KbaTz : (24 May 2012 - 03:47 PM) nope lol
Wink : (24 May 2012 - 03:46 PM) kb bought a car yet
JZBOSS : (24 May 2012 - 03:46 PM) sneaky kent
KbaTz : (24 May 2012 - 03:45 PM) simos plan from the start...
S0unIQ : (24 May 2012 - 03:44 PM) JZX-garage shares down, SG shares up
KbaTz : (24 May 2012 - 03:42 PM) next thing gino is gonna sell and GG jzxworld lol
KbaTz : (24 May 2012 - 03:42 PM) jzxgarage shares crashing
KbaTz : (24 May 2012 - 03:41 PM) :o
KbaTz : (24 May 2012 - 03:41 PM) pretty much a whole semesters work that would have been a breeze if i did it weekly like we were meant to lol
S0unIQ : (24 May 2012 - 03:41 PM) That what he said on SB
KbaTz : (24 May 2012 - 03:41 PM) due tomorrow
KbaTz : (24 May 2012 - 03:40 PM) I'm in the middle of doing a 6k essay lol
KbaTz : (24 May 2012 - 03:40 PM) don't lie ray ray
KbaTz : (24 May 2012 - 03:40 PM) for real!?
S0unIQ : (24 May 2012 - 03:40 PM) Charlie sold his jzx
JZBOSS : (24 May 2012 - 03:39 PM) nothing
JZBOSS : (24 May 2012 - 03:39 PM) whats goin on re
KbaTz : (24 May 2012 - 03:39 PM) what's*

- - - - -

JZX110 into a JCE10 - My Project Car


15 replies to this topic

#1 OFFLINE   frydryce

    Lackey

  • Standard member Members
  • 37 posts
  • Country:USA
  • Car:IS300
  • :

Posted 05 October 2008 - 03:57 AM

Hi Everyone,

I just wanted to introduce myself on these boards. I have been lurking around for a little while soaking up information for my engine swap project. I purchased a 1JZGTE VVTi out of a JZX110 Verossa. The reason it had to be out of a 110 was ease of wiring - the 110 and the JCE10 (IS300) are very similar. Unfortunately it is OBDII and Drive by Wire as well (more on the pain later)

The motor fits in perfect, almost like it was supposed to be in there. engine mounts are the same as well. I mated a R154 5speed from a soarer as this one the closest fit i could find. the ideal trans is the chaser 5spd, but those are freakin' rare and expensive. the chaser 5spd has a little extension off the tail that makes it fit perfect in my shifter hole. the soarer requires a little bit of cutting of the shifter hole, but nothing bad.

after getting everything mechanically complete, i attempted to run the engine on the stock IS300 ecu with a piggyback. BIG MISTAKE! the IS300 ECU won't respond to any closed loop tuning. regardless of how much i changed fuel trims or O2 signals, the IS300 ECU would take over and fight back. also the drive by wire idling system is terrible. i guess the VE from the IS300 and the 110 different enough that the idle program wont work. the motor stalls in free rev or a lot during deceleration. so in order to keep all my luxuries from the IS300 and have full tuning capabilities, a full standalone is required!

anyhow, here's some pics. enjoy!

#2 OFFLINE   frydryce

    Lackey

  • Standard member Members
  • 37 posts
  • Country:USA
  • Car:IS300
  • :

Posted 05 October 2008 - 04:00 AM

empty engine bay - we dropped the motor from the bottom instead of pulling it from the top. worked out pretty nice that way.
Posted Image

Posted Image


Engine Bay cleaned and prepped
Posted Image


Motor ready to have the car dropped on top
Posted Image


Shots of motor before putting in

Posted Image

Posted Image



Photo of Surge Tank in Drivers side under trunk. where some people put their dual exhaust can. perfect fit .

Posted Image


Master Welder and Formula D Driver Ernie Fixmer testing out the surge tank LOL

Posted Image

#3 OFFLINE   frydryce

    Lackey

  • Standard member Members
  • 37 posts
  • Country:USA
  • Car:IS300
  • :

Posted 05 October 2008 - 04:06 AM

photos of engine bay with turbo mounted, intake manifold mounted and powdercoated cam covers in place... its starting to look like a motor again!!!

Posted Image

Posted Image


hot side IC Piping complete

Posted Image

cold side IC piping complete

Posted Image

#4 OFFLINE   frydryce

    Lackey

  • Standard member Members
  • 37 posts
  • Country:USA
  • Car:IS300
  • :

Posted 05 October 2008 - 04:12 AM

Bosch 044 Fuel pump > Supra TT Fuel Pump > Walbro Fuel pump. the Bosch is about the same size around as the NOS can next to it.

Posted Image


ACT HD PP and 6puck Spung Disc and cutom 11.5lb Flywheel

Posted Image



More pretty photos of the motor =)

Posted Image

Posted Image

our very own DanielM working on my car

Posted Image

Can't wait to put this baby on the motor when we're all done!!! =)
Posted Image

#5 OFFLINE   FRpilot

    Mark II Meister

  • Forum Moderator Moderators
  • 1685 posts
  • Interests:圭OFFICE SPL-ist
  • Car:-_-
  • Time Online: 7d 20h 29m 21s

Posted 05 October 2008 - 06:23 AM

pwoah

very nice! where are u located?

only 1 thing, u got the section wrong lol
*moved*

#6 OFFLINE   frydryce

    Lackey

  • Standard member Members
  • 37 posts
  • Country:USA
  • Car:IS300
  • :

Posted 05 October 2008 - 10:15 AM

i'm located in California.... i posted up in the 100 forum because i'll probably keep my project updated on this thread. didn't want to start a new thread

#7 OFFLINE   TweakedOver

    Hitman

  • Over 100 free posts Standard Member
  • 464 posts
  • Location:Brisneyland
  • Country:Australia
  • Car:The Angry Camry
  • :

Posted 05 October 2008 - 04:56 PM

great work! will be an absolute beast!!!

#8 OFFLINE   hamgatan

    Lackey

  • Standard member Members
  • 23 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Perth
  • Country:Australia
  • Car:JZZ20 / SW20 / JZX90
  • :

Posted 07 October 2008 - 03:07 PM

couple of things. firstly IS300 is a JZE10. Weren't any Toyota JC series engines unfortunately :notworthy:

IS300 ECU is not going to power it for a start because its for a N/A 2JZ-GE. Totally different signals for Airflow/MAP for starters and considering ones a N/A engine and the others Turbo, AFR settings will be all over the joint. You should be able to use the JZX110 ECU though with some minor tweaks for the E10 Dash/Gauge Cluster to get it working.

what luxuries from the IS300 do you want to keep that require using the JZE10 ECU? Remember the ECU controls only engine info, with dash plug sendouts (which you just alter the pinouts to suit). Not sure about the JZX110 but in the JZX90, ABS and TRC and the luxuries (if thats what you can call TRC :P) are controlled on two separate external ECU's. I think a great deal of your problems associated with the JZE10 ECU also boil down to lack of VVTI Control. This will play a significant part..

That said with all that gear you're running on the 1J, why wouldn't you run a standalone! You'd be nuts not to! :D

BTW if you need help with this, jump on Toymods and look for a user in Sydney called 'whatthe?' He's currently got a 293rwkw 1JZ VVTi IS200 that is.. Well, Mean :P

#9 OFFLINE   frydryce

    Lackey

  • Standard member Members
  • 37 posts
  • Country:USA
  • Car:IS300
  • :

Posted 07 October 2008 - 07:48 PM

View Posthamgatan, on Oct 6 2008, 10:08 PM, said:

couple of things. firstly IS300 is a JZE10. Weren't any Toyota JC series engines unfortunately :notworthy:

IS300 ECU is not going to power it for a start because its for a N/A 2JZ-GE. Totally different signals for Airflow/MAP for starters and considering ones a N/A engine and the others Turbo, AFR settings will be all over the joint. You should be able to use the JZX110 ECU though with some minor tweaks for the E10 Dash/Gauge Cluster to get it working.

what luxuries from the IS300 do you want to keep that require using the JZE10 ECU? Remember the ECU controls only engine info, with dash plug sendouts (which you just alter the pinouts to suit). Not sure about the JZX110 but in the JZX90, ABS and TRC and the luxuries (if thats what you can call TRC :P) are controlled on two separate external ECU's. I think a great deal of your problems associated with the JZE10 ECU also boil down to lack of VVTI Control. This will play a significant part..

That said with all that gear you're running on the 1J, why wouldn't you run a standalone! You'd be nuts not to! :D

BTW if you need help with this, jump on Toymods and look for a user in Sydney called 'whatthe?' He's currently got a 293rwkw 1JZ VVTi IS200 that is.. Well, Mean :P

actually the IS300 chassis code is JCE10... although the motor is a 2JZGE toyota didn't stick with the typical naming methodology... don't ask me why.

turbo or not, in vacuum the cars are similar and technically i should be able to get it to idle, and the IS300 ECU actually runs rich so in boost up to 5V in the MAF should be fine. either way its a moot point as i'm going standalone. (for reference, the car is great in open loop with the FIC, it sucks in closed loop)

the IS300 ECU handles the electronic gauge cluster which cannot be outputted by a standalone computer. the AEM EMS controls VVTi and has built in traction control and i will probably be getting rid of Drive by Wire so then my management issues should be all done with.

#10 OFFLINE   frydryce

    Lackey

  • Standard member Members
  • 37 posts
  • Country:USA
  • Car:IS300
  • :

Posted 15 October 2008 - 04:43 PM

well in the meantime waiting for the EMS we've gotten the TRD bushing set installed and boxed in the lower arms. here's some pics of the arms to keep you occupied for the next week or so

Posted Image


Posted Image


Posted Image


Posted Image





1 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 1 guests, 0 anonymous users


JZX Hall of Fame!

Daily Top Posters Weekly Top Posters Monthly Top Posters Overall Top Posters Most Liked Users